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Re: [Full-disclosure] Barack Obama <-- Not Appropriate

From: andrew.wallace <andrew.wallace_at_nospam>
Date: Thu Jan 22 2009 - 23:31:51 GMT
To: Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider@gmail.com>, full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk


Remember in the Palestine war thread he accused you for working for Mossad and being paid to post on full-disclosure. Though he propagandas against n3td3v constantly to turn the world against me or something. Maybe its j-f sentier who is paid to be here and propaganda against things. He may not be a terrorist but he uses terrorist like tactics to turn hatred on. j-f sentier's defence will be, 'but 'Ureleet' done it so it must be ok to join in'. If 'Ureleet' told you to jump off a bridge would you do it?

Andrew
Intelligencer &
Founder of n3td3v

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider@gmail.com> wrote:
> The fact that he bears the same name as me, does not mean it's me.
>
> I don't spam propaganda - I invalidate yours.
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:16 AM, j-f sentier <j.sentiar@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> which propaganda ?
>>
>> you're spamming propaganda everytime you post.
>>
>> But i understand why now :
>>
>> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1049327.html
>>
>> "The footage also shows an Israeli soldier, believed by the military
>> police to be Corporal Avraham Schneider, picking up stones and participating
>> in the disturbance, instead of preventing it. "
>>
>> Everything is clearer than ever.
>>
>> 2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <A.L.M.Buxey@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> > I called for John Cartwright to setup a non-technical cyber security
>>>> > political full-disclosure mailing list some time ago, nothing was
>>>> > setup.
>>>>
>>>> because he didnt want to - and theres no demand?
>>>>
>>>> > What are the solutions for splitting up full-disclosure into technical
>>>> > and non-technical conversation unless two seperate mailing lists are
>>>> > created?
>>>>
>>>> go off and create a yahoo or google mailing list for such drivel
>>>
>>> I second that. If he wants to have a list for different types of
>>> discussions, the best choice is to just open one yourself.
>>>
>>> As for getting 'traffic' there, I doubt people would stop posting here
>>> and start posting there (as nothing would stop them from posting it here).
>>>
>>>>
>>>> and let FD go back to what it was a few years back - readable and
>>>> useful!
>>>
>>> FD is un-moderated and as such people can post whatever they want
>>> (security related or not).
>>>
>>> Usually, people would avoid annoying others with non-security related
>>> topics - but in the case of js-sentiner and co., one can expect some spam.
>>>
>>> Sometimes, when they decide to attack others (either with propaganda, or
>>> just because they are bored) , those attacked have two options - either a)
>>> ignore it or b) respond with non-security related posts and defend
>>> themselves (or oppose their propaganda).
>>>
>>> As far as readibility is concerned, that can easily be accomplished by
>>> either white or black list filters - i.e. if you only care about a certain
>>> vendor's patch notifications, put a filter to get them and blacklist the
>>> rest; if you care not to get any andrew wallase/avraham schneider/js
>>> sentier/whatever/whoever conversations - set a filter for that - and you are
>>> back with a readable FD.
>>>
>>> Just keep in mind that your posts requesting FD to go back to being
>>> readable, are not computer security related either (at least without
>>> wickedly twisting the meaning of the phrase 'computer security').
>>>
>>> So for the same reason you find it OK to post your request (and it is),
>>> andrew finds it OK to posts his (and it is).
>>>
>>> Not trying to defend n3td3v or anything - but there's some hypocricy
>>> here.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ala
>>>>
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>
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