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Re: [Full-disclosure] Seagate 7200.11 Drives attempted scam

From: Dexter, Ben <Ben.Dexter_at_nospam>
Date: Wed Jan 21 2009 - 21:15:12 GMT
To: "Razi Shaban" <razishaban@gmail.com>, "Full Disclosure" <full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk>, "Dave Kleiman" <dave@davekleiman.com>


Hi guys.

Dave is a member of a forensics list I am on and asked me to post this response on his behalf (he is not a full disclosure list member). You can email him at dave@davekleiman.com if you need to discuss further.

Ben.

---------Begin message from Dave Kleiman----------

Razi,

You researching skills are astonishing.....maybe NOT!

       >>>seagate.custkb.com != seagate.com<<<

Really, what was your verification process?

       >>>Seagate's knowledge base can be found at http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/ <<<

No that is where the link to Seagate's knowledge base is.

Did you bother to check the link, of course not? It leads here: http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/news.jsp?NewLang=en

Did you bother to call their support number, of course not? 1-800-SEAGATE (1 800 732-4283), you would have heard all about the issue.

       >>>Do you have any actual evidence to back up these wild claims? Besides the inquirer, of course (the source for the electronista article) and the _fake_ knowledgebase website<<

Yes I do...the actual source of the article, the Seagate forum from the 16th of Jan. ""Seagate Community Forums: Internal Hard Drives : Internal (ATA and Serial ATA) drives : ANNOUNCEMENT: Firmware Issues"" http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board?board.id=ata_drives just click on the ""ANNOUNCEMENT: Firmware Issues"" it is right at the top.

And, the knowledge base is real, but from someone with what appears to be your erudition and what would seem to be your knee-jerk reaction, you may not possess the skill set to figure that out.

Stick to whatever it is you do well, whatever that is, but it seems to be obvious that it is probably not any type of information research.

Respectfully,

Dave Kleiman - http://www.ComputerForensicExaminer.com

---------End message from Dave Kleiman----------

-----Original Message-----
From: Razi Shaban [mailto:razishaban@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 1:01 AM To: Full Disclosure
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Seagate 7200.11 Drives attempted scam

    On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Razi Shaban <razishaban@gmail.com>     wrote:
    > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Dave Kleiman     <dave@davekleiman.com> wrote:
>> If you have Seagate 7200.11 Drives you should seriously consider
    not using them for any valuable information storage, you might even     consider replacing them.
>>
>>
>>
>> The following information was provided to me by Scott
    "ByteAssassin" Moulton:
>>
>> Seagate is now admitting a huge problem with 7200.11 Drives.
    Seagate is picking up the tab for data recovery. I have known about     this problem and been teaching it in the class since the drives were     released and seen hundreds, not only Seagate's, but also Western     Digital and Hitachi. It's great to see them being responsible.
>>
>> There is a place to do the BIOS update. I have a feeling the
    problem is much more extensive than the firmware. There are updates     on the list below to test and update. I will let you know more as I     discover it. However, I will tell you that Western Digital and     Hitachi have similar problems with drives failing. We will see what     that is in the future I guess.
>>
>> Seagate Barracuda drives failing en masse
>>
>>

    http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/01/13/seagate.barracuda.fail     ures/
>>
>>

    http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=2     07931
>>
>>
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Dave Kleiman - http://www.ComputerForensicExaminer.com
>> 4371 Northlake Blvd #314
>> Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410
>> 561.310.8801
>>
> > > Do you have any actual evidence to back up these wild claims? > Besides the inquirer, of course (the source for the electronista     article) and the _fake_ knowledgebase website. > > seagate.custkb.com != seagate.com > >Seagate's knowledge base can be found at http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/ > > -- > Razi Shaban >

  • Forwarded message ---------- From: Dave Kleiman <dave@davekleiman.com> Date: Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:26 PM Subject: RE: Seagate 7200.11 Drives To: Razi Shaban <razishaban@gmail.com>

shhhhhhhhhh do not tell anyone. myself and byteassassin have created a supermicro nix kernel that runs in the flash area of seagate drives, we can cause the rotational speed of a hard drive to triple, and then the platters shatter. we already have over 500K downloads, and at defcon this year we be able to take over millions of computers and show us controlling them during our presentation, and then bang millions of hard drives will all crash at once....permanently! i hope you are not one of those security research guys and try and turn us in........................ ---------------------------------------------

nub fails epicly.

Regards,
Razi Shaban   



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