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Re: [Full-disclosure] Linus summarizes state of the "security industry" with precision and accuracy.

From: Simon Valiquette <v.simon_at_nospam>
Date: Tue Aug 19 2008 - 00:54:06 GMT
To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk

John C. A. Bambenek, GCIH, CISSP un jour écrivit: > Who's Linus?

  Are you seriously asking that, or just trying to start a "flamefest" (in which case, looking like clueless is a good attempt).

  Unless you are very Junior in the computer field (and even then), you should have heard of Linus Benedict Torvalds. It should be very basic general knowledge for someone in the computer security field, like knowing who is Dr. Bernstein, Bjarne Stroustrup, Denis Ritchies, Dijkstra and many others. They are not necessarily directly related to computer security, but their contributions all have significant impact in today security field.

  Instead of telling you who is Linus, I'll tell you a well garded secret: most famous people are described in Wikipedia. And even if they are not, It is usualy very easy to find something using Google.

  Well, probably another proof that showing a certification is not the same than showing expertise in a field.

Simon Valiquette

>>> 0. Torvalds Interview with Network World , 08/14/2008
>>> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/081408-torvalds-security-circus.html
>> Isn't that quite old news? Not only the article doesn't offer anything
>> new, but It also doesn't give the full picture and offer very little
>> useful information compared to the real discussion.
>> I did read the thread at this time, and there was many interesting
>> ideas. If I happens to see an article that resume well the issues
>> involved, I'll post a link, but I won't spend much time searching, so
>> don't wait after me.
>> By the way, Linus Torvalds is very well known to enjoy starting flames
>> on purpose (he calls that "flamefesting"). This time, the troll was trown
>> at OpenBSD, but It was too big to be taken seriously by them, so It is
>> mostly the security people that reacted.
>> I prefer the troll he launched last year when he basically said that
>> Gnome is just a waste of time and than both users and developers should
>> just give-up and move on to KDE, which would be a much better and
>> productive use of their time. It was said in 2007 directly on some major
>> Gnome mailing list, like his previous flames against Gnome. :o)
>> Simon Valiquette

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