On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:09:45 GMT, "andrew.wallace" said:
> I can't help if Robert Lemos, Neal Krawetz gave false reports about > n3td3v, that seems to have damaged us a lot and having to defend my > position constantly to a bunch of aliases on full-disclosure because > they believed something that was written in the media and had an > expectation and when that expectation couldn't be met, they thought > I'm a lie and a fake and the members of the n3td3v mailing list can't > be real.
I hate to inject some actual reality, but a few things to consider:
'n3td3v' was *already* widely regarded as a troll when Krawetz did
his research - he picked 'n3td3v' *specifically because* it was regarded
as the biggest security troll since Gobbles.
I suspect that the vast majority of full-disclosure readers either
didn't know or didn't care about Krawetz's posting until you made a
point of complaining about it and invoked the Streisand Effect on yourself.
The high troll factor of 'n3td3v' on the full-disclosure list scared
off a very high percentage of the full-disclosure people who concluded that
any list of 4,500+ run by a troll/idiot of the caliber seen on full-disclosure
*must* be composed mostly of sock puppets and other trolls.
Seriously - go back and re-read your postings over the past several years,
and then ask yourself "What would *I* think about this poster if I didn't
know who he was?".