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On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 12:42 PM, coderman <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> ... hypothesis that "security researchers" are all masturbating monkey
> whores is now proven definitively. 
I feel I can speak for the entire monkeynet project (http://www.themonkeynet.com/) when saying we are offended by this comparision.
> Too often, so-called "security" is split into two camps: one that
> believes in nondisclosure of problems by hiding knowledge until a bug
> is fixed, and one that "revels in exposing vendor security holes
> because they see that as just another proof that the vendors are
> corrupt and crap, which admittedly mostly are," Torvalds states.
> Torvalds went on to say he views both camps as "crazy."
> "Both camps are whoring themselves out for their own reasons, and both
> camps point fingers at each other as a way to cement their own reason
> for existence," Torvalds asserts.
> 0. Torvalds Interview with Network World , 08/14/2008
> [ ED: Dr. Diggle the Zoologist grunt / proctologist has lots of company, lol ]
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