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Re: [Full-disclosure] All China, All The Time

From: Bipin Gautam <bipin.gautam_at_nospam>
Date: Mon Jan 18 2010 - 19:14:35 GMT
To: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@gmail.com>

So, What is the cost of buying a fighter jet? What would be the cost of hardening windows (say) by default,straight out of Microsoft, with good defense in depth strategy (or least an ad-on)?

( Sometimes identifying your enemy is difficult than the battle itself and sometimes the battle exists within itself. )

How accountable should vendor be when it comes to security?

The problem with with Microsoft is, even if i want to give up flexibility and wish more security there is still no easy way out by default.

An example, a case of a mainstream company, Microsoft:

  • seeks help from an agency who prioritize on "collection efforts" over the defensive to help "secure?" their software.
  • Give away early patches to selected clients (which also CLEARLY means giving away 0-days information early) and many critical bug fixes remains un-patched for months/year.
  • Only and promptly sell customized/hardened version of Windows to "selected clients".

Also, a number of solutions that actually works[1] has export control.

So, like nuclear inspection, i think maybe, there should be an inspection agency under UN to monitor international software/hardware makers and make sure "Total Paranoia Module" (TPM) can be accomplished globally via transparency in the software development life-cycle of ICT products with international inspections to review quality of every software and hardware that is in international consumption and make sure it survives the hostility and will live the bureaucracy of cyberspace before it hits the market.

Reality, unless government steps in for total control and security of cyberspace, the private sectors are more on their own to protect their ends. We can only coordinate and try to police each-other and work for common-defense?

The way i see it, if you see it simple, the solution is quiet simple, if you make it complicated, you are right!

[1] www.baesystems.com/ProductsServices/bae_prod_csit_xtsstop7.html

Also check, http://lists.menog.net/pipermail/itpolicy-np/2010-January/000540.html

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