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Re: [Full-disclosure] About Israel-Palestine affair

From: Peter Bruderer <peter.bruderer_at_nospam>
Date: Tue Jan 06 2009 - 17:20:55 GMT
To: john doe <johndoegoeshollywood@gmail.com>


Please stop it now.

War is never ok. For nobody. No need to discuss here.

Peter Bruderer

On 06.01.2009, at 14:47, john doe wrote:

> First of all, I apologiye for talking about this in a security
> mailing list, but seeing all controversz around, I would like to
> make clear some facts:
> 1) Israel is using a revenge politics for ages. Eye for 1000 eyes,
> I would call it, cancelling passes thru the borders to palestinian
> residents, indiscriminate bombing, etc.
> 2)You want facts? Sure,
> -Fri Jan 2, 2009 6:57pm EST.
> Israeli armored forces remained poised on the Gaza border for a
> possible ground operation, a week after Israel launched devastating
> air strikes with the declared aim of ending rocket attacks on its
> southern towns.
>
> Gaza medical officials put the Palestinian casualty toll at least
> 429 dead and 2,000 wounded.
>
> A United Nations agency said more than a quarter of those killed in
> the Gaza Strip were civilians. A leading Palestinian human rights
> group put the figure at 40 percent.
>
> Four Israelis have been killed by Palestinian rockets since Israel's
> offensive began, including longer-range weapons that have hit the
> port of Ashdod and the desert town of Beersheba, forcing schools to
> shut and residents to scurry for shelter. (as usual, 4 soldiers
> dead, 400 palestinian murdered in revenge, no surprise, old school
> Sharon style).
>
> In the Israeli-blockaded Gaza Strip, 1.5 million Palestinians are
> unable to escape the conflict. Residents face bombs, missiles and
> flickering electricity, and queue for bread along streets littered
> with broken glass and other debris.
>
> Ten Palestinians were killed Friday in more than 30 Israeli air
> strikes. Seven of them were civilians, including five children,
> local medics said.
>
> One missile killed three Palestinian children aged between eight and
> 12 as they played on a street near the town of Khan Yunis in the
> south of the strip. One was decapitated.
>
> Islamist fighters fired rockets at Israel's ancient port of
> Ashkelon, blowing out windows in an apartment building. Another
> house took a direct hit from a long-range missile later in the day,
> and cars were set ablaze.
>
> (extract from http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSLS69391620090102?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
> )
>
> This is the truth. These are the facts. Israel has a constant
> harassment and punishment politic against palestinian people. I don'
> t care about what your politics could BUY in the 20's with the help
> of USA, I don't cry for your soldiers (as they accept a job where
> they are well paid to possibly DIE) , I care about families who
> cannot meet each other. I care about total block of basic supplies
> (and don't give me that shit about humanitarian help, etc... these
> are people, not begging anything, they have their rights and Israel
> decides when they have them and when they don't).
>
> I am spanish, quite neutral until I ' ve seen what this dammed
> people (much more extremist than Hamas, but with suits, crying and
> smiles they look like poor nice bussinessmen, they suffered so much
> in the past..) have done to a beautiful land. They grow kids in hate
> for Palestinian (you can say Palestinian too, but this is a normal
> after the massacre of your family and people).
>
> So please , stop chewing your stupid propaganda (nobody believes out
> of Israel, for sure not in Eurpe, maybe in some McDonald's in
> Tenesse...) and LOOK FOR A PACIFIC SOLUTION (and you hd the chance
> in the past, but you want the WHOLE CAKE in the name of the Tora, a
> book some priest/politician wrote, remember?).
> If not, go to Palestine (as I did) , and talk from YOUR OWN MOUTH.
>
> And PLEASE, stop polluting every media with your fake facts and
> Eternal Truth.
> This is a Security Mailing list, for people who (shouldn't) believe
> in your crap, people with interest in Absolute Truth from HIS OWN
> EXPERIENCE (isn't that Full Disclosure?).
> Shalom (remeber? It means PEACE ).
>
>
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