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Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

From: Mainbox Notif <rokadeana_at_nospam>
Date: Tue Jan 06 2009 - 00:07:30 GMT
To: Coolz <c00l.z3r0@gmail.com>


Coolz,

I think you misunderstood everything:
First : you are from Israel, so probably you read only Israeli newspapers. In modern world we see news from reliable (independent) sources. That makes your story not very believable. But it can be worse: some people here do never read newspapers or see the news. But still have an opinion or think that they have the knowledge.

Hamas is elected, IMO because they can do something against Israel. You told it: hamas give them food, money and other things if they join them in the fight against israel.

"The other things" you mentioned are (hopefully) weapons.

Of course, they do not have to negotiate with the thief that stool their country.

Lets help the Palestinian victims: give them food, medicines and weapons. Lets help them fight the occupiers.
They deserve their country back.
(Yes, you do want to hear it: it is THEIR country)

2009/1/5 Coolz <c00l.z3r0@gmail.com>

> Congratulation's handrix, and few other people here.
> for proving you amazing history and middle east knowledge.
> few facts (I'm from Israel, and also in the idf, for everyone who want
> few more reasons to hate me):
> In the beginning of the 20th century there were almost no Arabs in the
> land of Israel. However, the Jews, in spite of
> two thousand years of persecution, have been the majority of the
> population there during most of the history. In Jerusalem- they have
> always been the majority. When general Alenby , the commander of the
> British army, conquered Israel in 1917-1918, he found only a few
> thousands Arabs. Other Muslims in the region came from Turkey, or were
> the descendants of Jews and Christians who were forced to change their
> religion by the Muslims conquerers- but none of them was originally Arab.
>
> That about the so called Palestine country and all of that crap. (btw,
> if you care about it you may want to search for Philip Hitti
> AN ARAB PHD for middle east history who said: "it is well known that
> there is no such thing as Palestine in the history"
> there are few other arabs how said pretty much the same... just search it.)
>
> for the hamas part, please search for the Fatah, after that, you might
> ask so why did the Gaza strip people voted for hamas in democratically
> election? simple, hamas give them food, money and other things if they
> join them in the fight against israel, hamas control the fuel, hospital
> and most of the guns in the Gaza strip, they threat people and made
> them vote hamas, i won't go on with that line, so handrix and few other
> people here won't say I'm telling lies.
>
> from the year 2000 hamas is firing rockets (grad, improved grad qaasam
> and other rockets) the numbers that people wrote here are not even
> close to the real numbers. so what would you do? if your country was
> bombed each day, day after day even when you are not doing anything (and
> for a long time the idf didn't do anything in gaza) during the cease
> fire hamas still fire rockets to israeli civilian and military targets!
> so don't say its israeli propaganda or lies, hamas is a terrorist
> organization and nothing else matter, we gave them option to stop this
> stupid fight, they didn't took it. (for example, on the other of israel
> judea and samaria, israel is letting all the arab enter israel and work,
> not shooting down anybody and they are not under any israeli control,
> read about the fatah if you care about what is going on with the israeli
> arabs.
>
> Israel is doing everything it can in order to hurt only hamas people and
> is doing everything in our power not to hit civilians
> no one, including the UN,USA or anyone else has the civilians hit rate
> that the IDF is achieving in the small, crowded Gaza strip (usa bombed
> weddings and pure civilians targets in Afghanistan, UN is not enforcing
> there own rules about fire arms in Lebanon, Iraq war do i really need to
> say anything else?)
>
> so please think again before you spread your ignorance to the world.
> "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not
> sure about the universe."
>
> beside that,
> I'm sorry for for the English mistakes i probably have, as you can
> understand, i speak Hebrew as prime language, not English
> Hopefully that i managed to show you the bigger picture (more then a
> half a million Israelis that are suffering daily from hamas rockets for
> something that only the hamas can be blamed on)
>
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