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Re: [Full-disclosure] FD / lists.grok.org - bad SSL cert

From: Tim <tim-security_at_nospam>
Date: Mon Jan 05 2009 - 21:29:52 GMT
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu

> > How is that better, really? Run tcpdump or ettercap... Either of the
> > tools are off the shelf.
>
> And if the site is using a self-signed cert, how does a 3rd party tcpdump
> manage to get a *decrypted* datastream? Yes, you can still do traffic analysis
> on the "X talked to Y with packet sizes A, B, and C" level, but you can't
> look at the data.

You're missing the point of my comment:

  Plaintext communication => use tcpdump

  Encrypted without a cert => use ettercap (or something similar)

Is there really a non-constant difference in difficulty?

tim

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