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Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

From: Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider_at_nospam>
Date: Mon Jan 05 2009 - 06:51:25 GMT
To: "Mainbox Notif" <rokadeana@gmail.com>


On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Mainbox Notif <rokadeana@gmail.com> wrote:

> Before this topic I could not imagine that there was a man who is against
> the palestinian.

We are against terrorits, not against the Palestinians - they are victims like us - we both have Hamas to blame for.

>
>
> I read my newspapers, I see the news, daily. So I know 'something' about
> the war which was started by the israeli.

Was started by Hamas, with it's daily rocket fire on Sderot (innocent Israeli civilan population)

>
> I 'm graduated, so I can say, I'm not ' the stupid guy'. I read my books,
> and I am intereseted in history, filosofy and more.

I think some would disagree with you on your conclusion.

>
>
> The israeli people are not very populair. History shows that. In 1948 some
> ppl helped them, but the israeli screwed it up. That can happen. But nobody
> heard a ' sorry' . And that makes the israeli ' not very populair'. (lets
> say it nice)

Israelis won a war started by all Arab counties surrounding it - how that translates to 'screwd it up' baffles me.

>
>
> In this topic I read some stories from ppl who believe that the israeli
> invasion is right. Before this I could not imagine that. I did never met a
> person with that evil thoughts.

I think you should open up the dictionary and reevaluate your understanding of the word evil. I think you got it confused with 'self defense' - and if you never met such a person, I guess you live in another planet.

>
>
> I'm confused.

Welcome to earth.

>
>
> In my opinion you can only have this evil thoughts when:
> 1/ you live in Israel (then you see only one side of the story)
> 2/ you live in a country wich is against the jewish people and have a
> censored press. (both are bad, IMO)
> 3/ ????

After you understand that you are misusing the word evil, and should have used the words 'self defense' instead, I think you will be less 'confused'.

>
>
> All others know that israel is a agressor.

"Another one-way cease-fire that leads to rocket attacks on Israel is not acceptable," said the President in the Saturday address. "And promises from Hamas will not suffice."

> It is since they get a part of Palestine.
> (The Palestines did not had a choise, they had to give a part of their
> country away)

Was nevery their country yet Israel gave it to them on a silver plate as part of the Oslo agreements (supported by the extorsionist formula of land-for-peace)

>
>
> What I want to say is this: I can not imagine that anyone can say that the
> israeli are doing right.

It will be very hard for me to comment on what you can or can not imagine.

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> When they where thankful, then there was never a palestinian who drops a
> bomb or became a suicide-bomber.

What about the suicide bombers targetting and killing Israeli women and children?

>
>
> For all the jewish people: You can live there together. You can live in the
> Palestinian country. But always remember: You get this country from the
> palestinian. Be thankful. And do not ask more.
> And, do not take more!

Repeating lies don't make them true.

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>
>
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> 2009/1/4 Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com>
>
>> --On January 4, 2009 1:25:29 PM -0600 Mainbox Notif <rokadeana@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So, mr. Paul Schmehl,
>>> Can you tell me why the israelian want to have more and more? After they
>>> get a gift for their ppl?
>>>
>>
>> What is the "more and more" that you claim they want?
>>
>> That's what frustrating me the most.
>>> If you get something as a gift. And still want to have more.
>>> That's not very thankful....
>>> Israeli are still guests. And welcome.
>>>
>>>
>> No, they are not guests. They have their country. The Palestinians have
>> theirs.
>>
>> When you (or someone else) can give me a good answer, I wil think again.
>>>
>>> Since they want to have more and more, they occupy more land surround
>>> them . ( the homes of innocent Palestinian ppl) .
>>>
>>>
>> Palestinians are not innocent. Please stop saying that. They freely
>> elected Hamas knowing full well what their agenda is. Yasser Arafat was an
>> Egyptian (actually named Abd al-Rahman abd al-Bauf Arafat al-Qud
>> al-Husseini) who emigrated to Palestine. He was related to the Grand Mufti
>> of Jerusalem, Mohammad Amin al-Husayni, who was a good friend of Adolph
>> Hitler and approved of his goal to exterminate the Jews. The Palestinians
>> have never renounced that goal. In fact they refuse to renounce that goal.
>>
>>
>> Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
>> obvious, my opinions are my own
>> and not those of my employer.
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>>
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