full-disclosure-uk January 2009 archive
Main Archive Page > Month Archives  > full-disclosure-uk archives
full-disclosure-uk: Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

From: Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <buanzo_at_nospam>
Date: Sun Jan 04 2009 - 17:44:23 GMT
To: Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider@gmail.com>


-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

Well, if you'd really believed in afterlife / paradise / hell, we shouldn't worry, huh? :)

Indirect threats are very... funny.

Avraham Schneider wrote:
> Be careful of what you wish for.
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
> <buanzo@buanzo.com.ar <mailto:buanzo@buanzo.com.ar>> wrote:
>
> The bloodshed is caused by idiot people, motherfuckers and things
> like that. Stop the damn religion
> of bein g an excuse for your country's desires, ok? Ig god existed,
> he'd probably be thinking about
> nuking the hell out of Earth.
>
> Alaa Abdelwahab wrote:
>> Mikael
>
>>> This opinion is causing the majority of the bloodshed in the
> world today.
>
>> What is causing the bloodshed is the unjust arrangements that are
> tying to
>> be forced somewhere, the same like your example after the WW I.
>
>
>>> The argument can be made that Israel also tried peace, but it was
> responded
>>> with my bombings etc. Atrocities have been commited by both
> sides, this is
>>> an never ending argument. Both sides need to decide that they
> want peace,
>>> make sure they have representatives that also believe in this,
> and then
>>> they need to sit down and decide what to do, execute it and at
> the same
>>> time curb extremism in their own midst.
>
>> What peace they have tried? Did they agree on the tens of UN
> resolutions:
>
>> - Palestinian Refugees have the right to return to their homes in
> Israel.
>> (General Assembly Resolution 194, Dec. 11, 1948 ) >> - Israel's occupation of Palestine is Illegal. (Security Council
> Resolution
>> 242, Nov. 22, 1967 ) >> - Israel's settlements in Palestine are Illegal. (Security Council >> Resolution 446, March 22, 1979) >> - Palestinian have the right to Self-Determination. (General Assembly >> Resolution 3236, November 22, 1974) >> - Reaffirmation of a Palestinian State. (Security Council
> Resolution 1397,
>> March 12, 2002) >> - The 1947 Partition plan of Palestine and the creation of Israel. (UN >> General Assembly Resolution 181) >> - Recommends Israel suspend its no-man's zone' in Jerusalem.
> (Resolution
>> 127)
>
>> All above UN resolutions and other tens of other resolutions to
> deplores the
>> Israeli terror attacks against Lebanon/Jordan/Syria/Palestine/....
> were just
>> been ignored by Israel and instead they are just trying to force
> their own
>> view of peace, I don't call this peace.
>
>> Maybe you have a different definition of the terror acts.
>
>> When a man bomb himself and kills tens of civil ppl this is a
> terror act,
>> but also when a powerful country sends its troupes inside another
> country
>> and kills a thousands civil ppl this is a terror act as well.
>
>> Don't tell me it is doing that to protect itself.
>
>> To protect itself it should respect the UN resolutions. That
> should only
>> bring peace to the whole area and we all live in peace.
>
>> What I believe is that the UN should force Israel to respect its >> resolutions, the same way they did in Iraq and Yugoslavia.
>
>
>>> This is the current situation, it wasn't like this historically.
> Trying to
>>> argue that one side is evil by looking at latest developments is
> always a
>>> slippery road. You just before said that there were 5000 rockets
> launched
>>> in the past 8 years into Israel? Isn't that evil? >>> This leads nowhere.
>
>> As per the UN resolution which defined Israel as an "occupation
> forces",
>> that gives the right to the Palestinian to resist. Any way they
> see, and we
>> all should support them. >> And as per the International Humanitarian Law "the Geneva
> Conventions", the
>> safety and securing a good life for the Palestinian ppl is the >> responsibility of Israel.
>
>
>>> Force? As opposed to the parties involved here, I am writing/talking, >>> instead of promoting bloodshed.
>
>
>> When I said "force YOUR" didn't mean you, sorry for the
> misunderstanding it
>> is my bad.
>
>> Brgds...Alaa
>
>> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
>
>
>



Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/

iD8DBQFJYPV3AlpOsGhXcE0RCuGKAJ9yM92s1M9FNOkgOSmXgUZo6UMEHQCfW2+1 +zZ1MTJPdAh2fwLMr4pKO/w=
=iOuJ
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----



Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/