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Re: [Full-disclosure] The war in Palestine

From: Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <buanzo_at_nospam>
Date: Sun Jan 04 2009 - 16:05:15 GMT
To: Alaa Abdelwahab <alaa.abdelwahab@free.fr>


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The bloodshed is caused by idiot people, motherfuckers and things like that. Stop the damn religion of bein g an excuse for your country's desires, ok? Ig god existed, he'd probably be thinking about nuking the hell out of Earth.

Alaa Abdelwahab wrote:
> Mikael
>
>> This opinion is causing the majority of the bloodshed in the world today.
>
> What is causing the bloodshed is the unjust arrangements that are tying to
> be forced somewhere, the same like your example after the WW I.
>
>
>> The argument can be made that Israel also tried peace, but it was responded >> with my bombings etc. Atrocities have been commited by both sides, this is >> an never ending argument. Both sides need to decide that they want peace, >> make sure they have representatives that also believe in this, and then >> they need to sit down and decide what to do, execute it and at the same >> time curb extremism in their own midst.
>
> What peace they have tried? Did they agree on the tens of UN resolutions:
>
> - Palestinian Refugees have the right to return to their homes in Israel.
> (General Assembly Resolution 194, Dec. 11, 1948 )
> - Israel's occupation of Palestine is Illegal. (Security Council Resolution
> 242, Nov. 22, 1967 )
> - Israel's settlements in Palestine are Illegal. (Security Council
> Resolution 446, March 22, 1979)
> - Palestinian have the right to Self-Determination. (General Assembly
> Resolution 3236, November 22, 1974)
> - Reaffirmation of a Palestinian State. (Security Council Resolution 1397,
> March 12, 2002)
> - The 1947 Partition plan of Palestine and the creation of Israel. (UN
> General Assembly Resolution 181)
> - Recommends Israel suspend its no-man's zone' in Jerusalem. (Resolution
> 127)
>
> All above UN resolutions and other tens of other resolutions to deplores the
> Israeli terror attacks against Lebanon/Jordan/Syria/Palestine/.... were just
> been ignored by Israel and instead they are just trying to force their own
> view of peace, I don't call this peace.
>
> Maybe you have a different definition of the terror acts.
>
> When a man bomb himself and kills tens of civil ppl this is a terror act,
> but also when a powerful country sends its troupes inside another country
> and kills a thousands civil ppl this is a terror act as well.
>
> Don't tell me it is doing that to protect itself.
>
> To protect itself it should respect the UN resolutions. That should only
> bring peace to the whole area and we all live in peace.
>
> What I believe is that the UN should force Israel to respect its
> resolutions, the same way they did in Iraq and Yugoslavia.
>
>
>> This is the current situation, it wasn't like this historically. Trying to >> argue that one side is evil by looking at latest developments is always a >> slippery road. You just before said that there were 5000 rockets launched >> in the past 8 years into Israel? Isn't that evil? >> This leads nowhere.
>
> As per the UN resolution which defined Israel as an "occupation forces",
> that gives the right to the Palestinian to resist. Any way they see, and we
> all should support them.
> And as per the International Humanitarian Law "the Geneva Conventions", the
> safety and securing a good life for the Palestinian ppl is the
> responsibility of Israel.
>
>
>> Force? As opposed to the parties involved here, I am writing/talking, >> instead of promoting bloodshed.
>
>
> When I said "force YOUR" didn't mean you, sorry for the misunderstanding it
> is my bad.
>
> Brgds...Alaa
>
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